13/07/2010

The Ring

This entry is specially for Yanie who expresses her concern regarding man's ring.

I am by far is not an expert and this is merely and solely based on my personal experience.

(Belum pape dah buat disclaimer panjang-panjang. HAHA. Kot orang ingat aku pakar pulak karang.)

Ok, let me start by telling you my story.

In choosing a ring for your male other-half, first of all you must know what kind of ring material that he prefers. I have to admit, for Muslim the choices are quite limited to only stainless steel, silver, titanium and platinum (the most expensive). Some opted for the less expensive suasa. Suasa is a mixture of gold, silver and other alloy. As for me, suasa is out of the question since it is haram for Muslim men to wear gold and I am very was-was about this because upon research I had found two opinions regarding this matter.

Some say that it is absolutely forbidden because suasa still contains gold, even if in a small quantity. Some that that it is acceptable because of the small quantity.

From Zaharuddin.net
Another source here

Logically, if your food was contaminated with alcohol (as in arak) would you still consume the food? No, isn't it? So suasa is definitely not an option for us.

Since I have a very demanding fiance, *ehem, kidding!* stainless steel and silver too are not an option. So we have nothing but to opt for the most expensive material of them all, the platinum.

Nangis. <--- aku le yang nangis tu, terpaksa keluar duit banyak.

Platinum is expensive because it's a rare material. And dense. The price of a ring is calculate by how much the material worth per gram. And platinum is heavy and dense, hence the higher in price. DeGem, Diamonds&Platinum, Goldheart and Selberan are the jewelers (that we went) that offer platinum rings for men. Oh, I forgot to mention that another option is titanium which can be found at Tiffany & Co. The price for titanium ring starts at 2k. The downside of titanium is that it cannot be resized. Titanium is normally used for coating of the watches, spectacles because of its near-weightless properties.

We search high and lo for a ring that fit into our budget. Well, more of my budget actually. Bear in mind that for a decent plain-looking platinum ring, the price starts at 2.5k and above. The best composition for a platinum ring is 95% platinum and 5% alloy. There is no such thing as 100% Platinum. If you have a background in solid material engineering or at least learn chemistry you'll know why. If not, I'm gonna explain it in layman's language. Adding an alloy into pure material makes the material becomes more durable or in other word, stronger. Now don't get me carried away into explaining all the bonds inside a metal. It will pretty boring and too much info to absorb, trust me.

We search high and lo for the ring for my man. We went to various D&P and DeGem shops, to Selberan and finally to Goldheart. Goldheart is the only shop that we went that offers material other than Platinum. Bear in mind that the platinum that they have is 100%, which we are not so convince with, because of our knowledge in solid material and my knowledge in chemistry. And the SA keep on saying how good and "pure" their platinum rings are since they are 100% platinum. Pffft. Badly mis-informed. And they also have Platim ring which is sterling+silver. But we're not interested so we didn't ask any further.

Then...we got introduced to a new material! Well, it's not that new actually but it is new to the Malaysian market. The material is Palladium. Quick info about Palladium. It is actually in the same group as Platinum in the periodic table, which means that their chemical properties is similar but palladium is less dense than that of Platinum.

Less dense = less expensive = save money. Geddit? YAY!

Sadly for palladium ring, for now there isn't much design to choose from. But luckily the design that they (Goldheart) currently have, is similar to the ring that my fiance likes from Tiffany & Co. Hell, that man sure got an expensive taste.

He tried it on, liked and loved it but since we never heard of palladium before, both of us decided to go back and do a quick research/reading before we make our decision. I even went to certain extend of reading forums dedicated to jewel maker on their opinion on palladium, the pros and cons etc. All in the name of a ring.

Hey, I am a Type A so bear with me.

So, the next day we went back to Goldheart and the rest is history..

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My advise is that it's always good to have a basic knowledge and know what you want beforehand. So that you won't feel "lost" or let yourself get cheated by the sweet talk of the SA. And don't scared to ask a lot of questions if you do not understand or know anything. Save the embarrassment and fear looking like an idiot somewhere else. But like I said, basic knowledge is important as you can prepare yourself and absorb things explained by the SA fast.

Better be safe than sorry girls.

If any of you still have questions feel free to ask me! I am glad to help. (Chewah, dah macam ring expert plak aku ni)

18 moose(s) hit it:

reena said...

Boleh bukak kedai cincin pasni. Hehe.

Dyalycious said...

owh ye ke suasa haram jugak. sib baik tak beli. thanks moose for the info. so yg palladium tu only goldheart je ke yg ade?

Amalina said...

thanks moose for the info..
bleh engrave tak utk palladium tu?

si kecil said...

palladium tu harganya starting berapa?

good info! thanks

Moose said...

reena:
haha. knowledge pun ciput je kan..

dya:
it's hard to say that suasa is haram or not, sebab ada pendapat cakap it is haram (sebab ada gold even if it's only in small quantity) but some say it's ok. my advise, if you're was-was like i am, it's better not to buy suasa. was-was itu syubhah.

Moose said...

amalina:
palladium punya properties sama macam platinum, since it's from the same group. so basically what platinum ring can do, palladium pun also can. you nak engrave, resized, polish ke, semua boleh

si kecil:
price totally depends on the size and thickness of the ring. but save to say it's half from that of platinum!

sumpit said...

yeousss, i've been eyeing (kat internet jela) palladium for months now. It is said that it is more rare (rarer? - apsal aku cam dah x confident ckp english ni hahahhaha?) than gold, n cheaper than platinum (sbb consumer arent really aware of it) dan lebih keras n payah for jewelers to work with, hence diorg malas nak promote.

price-wise, rm300 ke atas kot. sabbsabby once wrote an entry on it.

Plus, iron man pon pakai palladium to power up his suit and keep him alive, so i say, jom beli palladium ramai2 before they hike up the price.

moose, taknak letak gmbr cincin tunang ko ke? aku nak budget2 design goldheart ni...

Moose said...

sumpit:
palladium is more rare than platinum and gold, yes. keras or not tu, tak sure sebab in one forum for jewelers cakap takde beza pun dengan platinum. in fact palladium has been around for decades since world war 2 lagi where platinum is scarce at that times so people resort to engagement/wedding rings made of palladium.

price-wise like i said depends of size and thickness. for average men's finger, it would cost 1k and above, safe to say la. karang aku cakap less than 1k lepas tu korang tak dapat, korang marah aku plak. hihi.

eti, google for milgrain tiffany & co. the design is similar to that.

Hana Jaffar said...

thanks for the info! now i know there's a subs for platinum ;)

one issue tho, about suasa..
bukan ke ada suasa putih, and suasa merah? apa beza dia pulak?

Yanie said...

Mooseee!!!! thanksssss dearrrr!!!! i mintak permission nak copy this entry and keep it for my reference ek... thank you so much... it helps a loot. Ramai orang recommend Goldheart... kena pergi tengok juga ni... but wow!!platinum ring, RM2.5 K AND ABOVEEE? adoi *pengsan*

Nurulhuda|Adlie said...

haha, disclaimer itu penting abg mus, serious sangat penting, dah aku suka entry ko ni.. pastu aku tick..

like. :)

Zetty said...

palladium ni bukan benda yg iron man guna to keep him alive tu ke?

-makcik sangat terpengaruh dengan movie

Moose said...

hana:
i am not familiar with suasa but maybe suasa putih tu more silver/alloy contain than gold? or suasa merah tu dia add bronze instead of silver? wallahualam. but apa2 pun suasa still contains gold. maybe the colour is different according to what kind of alloy that is added to the gold.

yanie:
no problemo babe! i am very glad to help. yes, platinum is very expensive! i nearly got an heart attack looking at the price alone. tapi cincin perempuan mahal takpe! haha

huda:
ko saje je kan. tak pasal2 aku jadi abg mus. chait! blogspot takleh like. FB (note) boleh. muahaha.

zetty:
ye kot. i tak tengok iron man 2 la. iron man 1 pun tengok sambil tertido. sumpit pun cakap benda yang sama. tang mana iron man pakai palladium tu? suit die ke?

Yanie said...

Adoi moose betul...cincin perempuan mahal sikit takpe kan? Tapi i kena check budget dia juga hehehe... And for me i takde budget banyak macam tu kot dear for his ring.... Huhu... And how much is a palladium ring normally cost ek? adoi moose sorryla terpaksa jadi ring expert i...

sumpit said...

gila hang tgk iron man bole tertido! hahahhahaha. tht's like one of the best film on the decade, eh, two of the best and both are equally good, imho la.

btw, dia pakai kat jantung.

Moose said...

yanie:
palladium ni safe to say starts at 1k la. sebab yang display dekat goldheart punya showcase tu only rm800 but it's in a small size, so freaking small that even my finger cant fit. for normal guy's size, it's about 1-1.5k

sumpit:
aku tak tengok kat cinema, download je and maybe masa tu ngantuk kot tu yang sampai tertido. oo yg ring dekat jantung die tu eh?

missbutterfly said...

noted. nnti nk beli palladium lah. thanks for the info!

bride2wife said...

hello ring expert ;p

my hubby also got and expensive taste like your fiance!!!haha..

mahal2 cincin lelaki pon, i agreed dgn prinsip cincin perempuan lagi mahal itu harus..LOL...

 

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